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An Interview with Art Marketing and Artist Career Development Expert, Caroll Michels continued
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Chris: So one thing that’s critical for the artist to understand is the more they know about the business, the more control they have over their art?

Caroll: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. And while there are artists who get into a rut where the dealer will say, “OK, birds are in this year. We want 15 birds.” And some artists will do this, and it’s a shame because I think this is where the border of fine art and commercial art comes in, if someone’s dictating to you what to create. It happens. I’ve seen it happen.

Chris: So how does the artist go about pricing their work?

Caroll: OK. Most artists price their work in a very unscientific way.

 

Chris: The dart board?.

Caroll: The dart board. Yes, exactly.

… Back to the Internet again because there’s so many online galleries, and you can see how artists price their work. It’s totally all over the place for the same medium that’s the same size. An artist with the same similar sort of background in terms of exhibition history or whatever, it’s all over the place. …

So I really work with artists on an individual level to help them ascertain what would be a fair price for their work. And ultimately it depends on them. I don’t tell them how much they should charge. I give them some guidelines.

I don’t tell them to follow what other artists are doing. This is the kiss of death because then you’re following somebody else’s psyche. And it’s very important to develop your pricing strategy for yourself.

Unfortunately, dealers tend to like to price on the low side because they feel that if a work is priced low it will sell quicker. I have a very different approach. I don’t correlate … low prices with quick sales. I think it’s just the opposite. … It’s saying to someone that, “I really don’t have much self-confidence in my work.”

Most people buy art for the purpose of they like it or for decoration. They’re not buying it as a hedge against inflation, although they might have a fantasy that somehow the artist is going to become very, very, very successful. But if immediately they’re getting a bargain-basement price, it doesn’t give off a good message to your potential client that you have the self-confidence that someday you’re going to be a well-known artist.

So I deal with it very pragmatically in terms of pricing, also understanding that, for example, works on paper go for less, unfortunately, than works on canvas. It’s just one of those rules. You price by the size which is totally crazy, but … you can say, “This little painting is a better painting than this big painting,” but people don’t understand. Let’s say dealers don’t understand. … It’s a value judgment. And as visual art, it’s very, very subjective.

 

So for this reason, the pricing aspect of career development, career management, is very, very crucial, particularly if someone really wants to make a full-time living as an artist. …

So I’m coaching them to be able to stand up and say, “This is what I want for my work.” But … as I said, there has to be a comfort zone, and they have to feel comfortable with those prices in order to defend it. And oftentimes they are asked to defend it because people will say, “Well, gee, your resume isn’t long enough to warrant these prices,” and then the artist will get very, very insecure. So it’s important that they feel good and confident about the prices that they’re charging.

Chris: You mentioned insecurities. Are there a lot of psychological barriers to success?

Caroll: Yes, … because I also work with very well-known artists who have difficulties with success, and it seems to be, if you’re having difficulties with rejection, you also will have difficulties with success. Not always does that correlate, but I just kind of notice these things over the years that I’ve been doing this. …

I think the biggest psychological barrier is the fear of rejection, putting your stuff out there and being judged. … This is very, very scary for many artists. I think it’s so important that, for example, in art school, the students have … opportunities to defend their work, to give presentations in public, let’s say, amongst other students. I know not all students do that, but I think this kind of public criticism in a good way is very, very important for when they leave school. They’re able to talk about their work and feel more articulate. And … that kind of practice will overcome some of the psychological barriers that artists experience.

Chris: Now, for any free-lancer, self-employed person, small businessperson, it’s important to track expenses, your costs. How about for the artist?

Caroll: It’s very important, and I ask them and they go, “Oh, oh. Oh, I don’t want to do that.” I ask them, OK, for example, “How long does it take for you to create a sculpture or a painting?”

“Well, I don’t know.”

“Well,” I said, “Well, let’s guesstimate. Can you just kind of guesstimate?” And I push and push and push and push, and eventually they get there. And then I ask them to give themselves a salary, and that’s a hard -- how can you -- because so many people are raised to believe that art is cosmic and how can you put a dollar figure on it? And then -- but then on the other hand, they want to sell the work so then you have to put a dollar figure on it .

So there’s a lot of misconceptions and gobble-de-gook going on over the pricing issue. … But once artists can really get down to the pragmatic issues of pricing work and how much this costs, and how much the overhead is, and what a profit margin should be, and where they’re fairly compensated -- then they get used to it. It’s just a big struggle at first to get the information out of them or get them willing to do that kind of an exercise.

Chris: Now, Karin sometimes makes a little extra income by waiting tables. What about the second job and the artist?

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